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James Allison linked with a potential move to McLaren F1

James Allison linked with a potential move to McLaren

James Allison linked with a potential move to McLaren

James Allison left Ferrari after a falling out with new president Sergio Marchionne.

That is the claim of the German publication Auto Motor und Sport, following this week’s news that the Italian team’s highly rated British technical director has left.

Ferrari claimed the decision was taken “jointly” but gave no reason for the split.

Allison said in a statement: “During the years I spent at Ferrari, at two different stages and covering different roles, I could get to know and appreciate the value of the team and of the people, women and men, which are part of it.

“I want to thank them all for the great professional and human experience we shared. I wish everybody a happy future with lots of success.”

Earlier this year, Allison’s wife died suddenly and it has been rumoured he might want to return full-time to Britain where his children live.

Auto Motor und Sport said that since his wife’s death, Allison has only been at Maranello 3.5 days a week, and rarely at races.

He is now being linked with a potential move to McLaren-Honda F1.

McLaren were keen to sign him at the start of 2013, but he ultimately turned them down to go back to Ferrari.

Auto Motor und Sport correspondent Michael Schmidt reports: “Returning to England is certainly one of the reasons for the separation.

“But there are also claims that Marchionne could not cope with Allison, because the Briton spoke his mind and refused to be dictated unreasonable targets in contrast to his (Allison’s) 25 years of motor sport experience,” he added.

Ferrari has replaced Allison with engine chief Mattia Binotto, but Schmidt claims this is just an “interim” solution.

There are reports Ferrari’s former technical director Ross Brawn is en route to Hockenheim.

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50 Comments
  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    Which means he is just an average everyday F1 driver. Thanks for confirming that Schumacher is just an average F1 driver.

  • MetalQuintessence

    Nope, it just shows that Schumacher wasn’t any better or worse than them.

  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    Then Google it and get another source of facts.

  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    So Senna and Schumacher were both low life scum cheats. Great. It still means Schumacher is a cheat. You still think that giving examples of other drivers being bad makes Schumacher good. It does not. It actually just proves my point even more.

  • MetalQuintessence

    Oh yeah, “retaliation”… what he did was ram into another car. No justification about how dangerous it was.
    The pole was not changed, on the contrary it has always been on this side of the track. After Senna protesting the organisers agreed to change it, then Balestre came in. Get your facts right. Whether Senna was right to protest to move the pole on the clean side of the track is debatable, but but the pole has until then always been on this side of the track. It wasn’t moved for this race.

    “But Schumacher had years of cheating examples, not just one.”
    Yeah, the most untalented 7 WDC cheating driver. 😛
    How if you take every rumor for absolute truth, how about the whispers that Senna was having a handpicked engines from Honda in McLaren opposed to Prost. There were engine boxes with his name specifically written. You see, it goes both ways.

  • MetalQuintessence

    You posted opinions, not facts.

  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    I posted facts. Schumacher is known as a cheat. Just Google it. You are a fraud like Schumacher.

  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    What Senna did was in retaliation for what Prost did the year before and for Balestre changing the pole position. It was about making things fair, not what Schumacher did. But Schumacher had years of cheating examples, not just one.

  • MetalQuintessence

    You are a waste of life, thanks for acknowledging that.

    And no, I didn’t waste my life defending the greatest champion of F1. I posted facts, not just my opinion and anyone can go and look it up in case they are not sure if the facts are true. That’s called a discussion.

    I accept hard facts, but not blatant lies.

  • MetalQuintessence

    “(in terms of cheating and unsportmanlike behavior)

    Well you seem to by a hypocrite since you ignore offenses done by other legendary drivers like Senna. Him taking out Prost is any less dangerous than Schumacher running Barrichello close, but not into the wall? I’ll leave to ppl with brain to decide.

    But bear in mind that the cars during the Senna-Prost era were way way more dangerous to drive with much less protection for the driver, ppl still occasionally died in races back then. I just wonder why the stewards didn’t took a similar decision back then when they practically ran into each other no different than what Schumacher did with Villeneuve.

  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    Oh BTW the way to repudiate someone’s attack on Schumacher is not to comment on other bad things done by other drivers. That is only reinforcing how bad Schumacher was, by comparing him to other bad drivers (in terms of cheating and unsportmanlike behavior).

    I don’t know of any other driver who had all their points from an entire season deduced from them for their unsportmanlike driving. Do you know of any other driver who got such a large punishment for their driving (cheating)? Or is that a uniquely Schumacher record? It’s a little bit more than a 10 second time penalty, isn’t it!

    Did you know that when Schumacher pushed Barichello to the pit wall one of the stewards said that they didn’t see the incident until after the race. As it happened near the end of the race. But that steward said Schumacher would have received a black flag for his driving. How long has it been since an F1 driver got a black flag for dangerous driving? I don’t recall any. Shame the race wasn’t a few laps longer and Schumacher could have added that to his record list.

  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    I get it, you love Schumacher, I said some hard truths about your hero, and you took that as a personal insult, then wasted HOURS on rants to defend your hero. What a waste of a life.

  • MetalQuintessence

    “I did verify your words. You insulted me when I stated the truth about Schumacher. ”
    The “truth”, not the facts.

    “You know, the guy who tried to push Barichello into a wall.
    Yeah, the same guy who nearly took a backmarker while desperately trying to keep Brundle at bay in 1994 in the Pacific GP, much akin to what Schumacher did to him. Yes, there was no wall, but on the other hand had he sun that guy there was gonna be at least 3 way crash.

    “They guy who “spun” at Rascasse to stop Alonso beating him in qualifying.”
    Yeah, same guy. Let’s think who else did shit like that. Senna Monaco 1985. Rosberg in 2014 again in Monaco. Alonso, or rather McLaren holding him in Hungary 2007 to hold of Raikkonen in qualifying for which they got their points from that weekend taken away. Should I go more? Not to mention Schumacher got penalized severely for that, he started way back.

    “The guy who crashed Villeneuve and Hill off the track to try to win a WDC. ”
    Senna driving into Schumacher in the French GP 1992. Senna driving into Prost, Hill driving off Schumacher on multiple occasions since 94 to 97. But I bet you missed those, there are videos on youtube go watch them. Villeneuve has been quite the shunter himself, but yet he never had his whole season worth of points been taken away for it. Schumacher did wrong and paid the price.

    “The guy who was involved in the other Benetton cheating scandal.”
    You mean the car with the only decent driver that season? 1995 he still cheated or what?

    “I call them facts by the way.”
    You can call them however you want, facts are often supported by evidence. You didn’t ever provide one.

  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    I did verify your words. You insulted me when I stated the truth about Schumacher. You know, the guy who tried to push Barichello into a wall. They guy who “spun” at Rascasse to stop Alonso beating him in qualifying. The guy who crashed Villeneuve and Hill off the track to try to win a WDC. They guy who had all his points taken off him for a season for hat cheating. The guy who was involved in the other Benetton cheating scandal. Do you need any more “insults” against your Schumacher? I call them facts by the way. I don’t have much more to say now as I have to go, but the list of Schumacher facts is much longer. As you would know. So once again you are a liar who does not have the balls to say “I was wrong.” Just more lies. Pathetic.

  • MetalQuintessence

    Nope, everyone can go and scroll in the comments and verify my words.

  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    Haaaaaaa. So no insult against you before you insulted me and you can’t admit you are wrong. Classic delusional passive aggressive troll.

  • MetalQuintessence

    Nope, I am pretty sure and I can prove this when go back in the comments that you started the Schumacher and Benetton slur.

  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    “I can’t believe how for more than 20 years ppl are continuing with this bs.”

    You started it. Oh look, I found another fact to prove you wrong. Looking forward to seeing a huge text trying to prove that wrong. And not reading it.

  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    Thank you! Finally. Now you get it.

  • MetalQuintessence

    “Didn’t read past the first line. ”
    I guess that’s how you read news articles too. 😛

    Then all of your arguments are pointless when you don’t bother. Then don’t bother posting anymore.

    “With my brother’s title and google you could find his name. I’m not that stupid.”
    Ok, then why bring him up at all then? If you can’t prove he ever was in the team it’s worth nothing mentioning it. Everyone can make a claim like that.

    “The rest is a desperate attempt to create a discussion that I’m not interested in dedicating my $#!77ing time to.”
    Then please, let’s stop this “discussion” here.

  • MetalQuintessence

    Well you do return again only to post…. ? Or that doesn’t count neither.

    I don’t want to sound mean, but the most F1 news sites are basically a copy/paste news article types, if you’ve read the news once there’s nothing new or different you can read about it on another F1 site. With a few exceptions, most sites are like that. If they can’t keep up the maintenance they can either remove the filter pending or be done with comments all together. Simple as that. I am not demanding for anything, as a consumer (even 1 of a charity have the right to complain) I just gave my complaint and opinion about the service. It’s in their hands what they want to do.

    I didn’t argue about which word is an insult, I just noted that the one who started with the insults in any form was you. Unless you can point me to where I first insulted you, I don’t see much sense in your insult issues.

  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    WTF is an insult. You seem to not understand when you are being insulting. It is not just using the word “tool” it is also using polite words to imply that someone is useless or an idiot. FYI you visited the site before you posted, and you posting something isn’t going to add massively to their income. If you knew how little these people make from these sites, you would be a bit more understanding. It is practically a charity for your benefit.

  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    Didn’t read past the first line. With my brother’s title and google you could find his name. I’m not that stupid.

    The rest is a desperate attempt to create a discussion that I’m not interested in dedicating my $#!77ing time to.

  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    I think you missed the bit where I posted some other people’s comments, not my own.

  • MetalQuintessence

    “It’s clear to me that Schumacher’s car had traction control based on all the information we have access to.”
    Please do link us to that information. r quote it in a concise form here.

    “I’ve been thinking more about this recently.”
    Doesn’t seen like you’re one for that, but I’ll believe you. You’ve only been thinking, guessing and assuming so far. No proof that you have posted.

    “The option is there in the software for launch and traction control are there but there is no evidence they used it”
    That do seem suspicious, but the option was accessed only when you trigger a specific sequence to be able to enter it. It’s a valid point that it could be used and that it could thus be available to only the driver that knew of it. But by that logic what proves that no other driver also used the launch control?

    And if the car was so crappy to drive, believe me a thing like TC wouldn’t have made the difference and FOR FUCK SURE WOULDN’T MAKE STOP THE CAR FROM OVERSTEERING. That’s a completely different thing and it’s done by designing the chassis in a certain way and setting up the aero and other things like that. All that TC does is to prevent your wheels from doing a overspin. And additionally to control the speed of separate wheels so the car have better grip and not slid. It helps it have better traction, that’s why it’s called traction control. It has little relation with over and under steering.

    If it was presumably off all the time on Vers, then it shouldn’t have mattered. Even if Scum,Schumcher had TC that couldn’t have helped him not oversteer.

    The reason for that oversteer is indeed Michael’s driving style and thte fact that the Benetton was design for him.
    “Michael Schumacher was able to fend off the Williams attack and score his 6th victory of the season. Jos Verstappen spun off again on lap 25. He was finding it hard to come to grips with the B194, which was specially developed for Schumacher’s aggressive oversteering driving style.”

    “Also, there was the proved cheating by removing the fuel filter valve during pits which caused them to increase flow by 12.5% .”
    Yeah,but…

    “The World Motor Sport Council hearing surrounding Benetton and the fuel fire at Hockenheim was brought forward to September 7, with the disqualification of Schumacher at the Belgian Grand Prix also moved to the same day. The night before the hearing, however, the FIA were informed by Larrousse, one of the other teams competing in the championship, that they were informed by Intertechnique in May to remove the filter from the refuelling rig, a point Flavio Briatore made in prior meetings that all but four teams had removed the filter. The FIA in the hearing judged that Benetton had not tried to cheat by removing the filter from the refuelling rig, but the governing body did say that the team removed it without authorisation from Intertechnique to try to gain an advantage. Thus the team were found guilty of the offence, but escaped punishment due to this valid plea in mitigation.”

    So the FIA didn’t agree that it wasn’t to gain advantage, but accepted the claim that other teams were cheating too.
    So when that has been done by nearly all other team, probably including McLaren, Ferrari and Williams how is it gaining an advantage? You remember mentioning that part about Brawn only being allowed to use the double diffusers?

    As for the actual reason why they refueled “faster” than the rest.

    “In sports car racing, strategy was a key part of things, but in F1 it was only just getting started then. When I returned to F1 I was amazed how poorly some of the teams used the pit stops to work for them strategically. In 1994 we were often able to beat Williams through simple strategic moves. The fuel rigs were much slower then. We knew we could stay with them carrying 10 more kilos of fuel, and we’d stop at the same time as them but we’d have more fuel left so we could put less in. So our pit stop would be a couple of seconds quicker than theirs and we’d come out in front. All sorts of accusations went flying around, and our fuel cells were stripped three or four times that season. But the calculations were quite simple. It was just something we were more familiar with, because of sports car racing.”

    “After Senna’s retirement on the first lap of the second race of the season at the Pacific Grand Prix in Japan, Senna stood and watched the race from beside the track attempting to hear any suspicious noises that suggested traction control was being used illegally, Senna returned to the Williams pit suspicious that the Benetton car was indeed illegal.”

    I’ve told you that in my previous comments too. But anyways.

    “Clever moves can lead to protests, and I got a bit of a reputation, unfortunately. The one I feel aggrieved about was Imola 1994, the traction control issue. The rest you can argue were all about interpretation of regulations and so on, but in 1994 we were simply accused of cheating. The FIA had our ECUs [electronic control units] examined by an outside firm, who found some redundant features that referred back to 1993. All the race data from Imola was available, and it showed no sign of traction control or launch control being used. The menu didn’t have those options on it, so although they still existed in the software they could not be activated. All the FIA said was, ‘We agree it wasn’t being used, but it was there.”

    “All the race data from Imola was available, and it showed no sign of traction control or launch control being used. ” That right there is your proof that Schumacher hadn’t used TC.

  • MetalQuintessence

    Ok, let’s get to it.

    You don’t want to cite your brother’s name, that’s ok, unless you can say at least what his exact role in the team was then your claim is absolute bs. There tons of ppl that report directly to the technical chief. That’s like saying “my dads a big deal, he reports directly to his boss”. There are clearly defined roles in the teams, chief of on track operations, sporting director, team principal… what was your bro responsible for?

    “As for the team mate, I checked and it was Verstappen who made that claim. ”
    Ahh, no you didn’t, you only did so after I told you you was wrong, yet again. You would have still claimed it was Patrese. You don’t even know the drivers, how do you expect ppl to believe about the rest of the stuff you say?

    “And since he hit his wife that makes him a liar and everything he said was wrong. Not. ”
    Nope, but his perfect example of a mediocre drover career and the fact that him beating not only stalking his wife, stabbing her tires and assaulting his gf with his car, also had fractured the skull of a fellow driver kinda doesn’t make him look like the person who would be honest about anything. It does not still makes him a a liar, but perhaps shows the vile and arrogant self infatuated person that he seems to be. Why didn’t he achieved any relevant success in his racing career other than 2 wins outside of F1. 1 of which at Le Mans with 2 other colleges.

    “And Senna said it. He didn’t have a wife so he must also be a liar.”
    He had a gf, but just bcs he said it doesn’t mean he was automatically right, either. He said it, didn’t prove it. He has lied before. With the Prost incident he left everyone think that he didn’t do it on purpose for a whole year, later he admitted he did it on purpose. That’s just 1 example.

    “As for the code, if it wasn’t illegal, why pay a huge fine and not give the code to the FIA? Why delay handing it over? If there was nothing to hide, why the delay. ”
    Why? Indeed why?
    The better question is why they didn’t delete the Launch Control piece as well? I mean for those two weeks they had all the time in the world. Why didn’t they also scraped that when they allegedly removed the rest? Diabolically clever idiots? Sounds rather ironic.

    “Like Red Bull for 2.5 years were accused of having an illegal ride height adjuster and then they were found with it. ”
    So bcs 1 team was guilty it means that all other teams should guilty when they are presumed? Brilliant!
    That’s counter to what you said about Jos and Senna about their wives.

    “Here is what some other people said on the issue:”
    “JJ Lehto, Jos Verstappen and Johnny Herbert”
    Oh yeah, bcs these 3 are known for being great racers and not the kind that will have a chip on their shoulder. Herbert was never teammate with Alonso, yet he decided he had the right to retire him. 😛

    “All found the B194 difficult to drive; ”
    And bcs they couldn’t drive the car Schumacher was cheating? They also couldn’t drive other cars after that, were their teammates cheating then too?

    “Verstappen said in 1996 that “I must have a little the same driving style as Johnny because he said basically the same things about that car that I did and seems to have had the same feelings. It was a very difficult car. ”

    Ok, what about what Brundle said about the B192 car?
    “When Martin Brundle drove the B192 again in 2008 at Silverstone, he recalled that although it was slightly tail-happy, it was very comfortable to drive and said of it “…I can live with it, it’s great!”. It was a substantial improvement over the previous year’s car which Brundle described as being “very heavy on the steering”, “a real challenge to drive … and sometimes it felt like a bathtub with a loose wheel”.”

    The 1991 was used for the 1st 3 races of 1992 as well, Schumacher had scored 2 podiums with it in 92. Then they didn’t had no TC, no Launch Control, no Active Suspension, no ABS, no Power Steering and were still using manual shift. I would love to see any of the 3 goofballs there to have done any better than Brundle, let alone Schumacher in that car. I wonder what they would blame their lack for then?

    “Driving styles do not differ by such great amounts between drivers.”
    Alonso – Raikkonen 2014?

    “A car that’s dominating in the hands of one driver cannot be so difficult in the hands of these three talented drivers.”
    Talented? You call that talented?

    Of those 3 the only one that is openly claiming Schumacher cheated is the one with the least and the worst racing record of all of them. You need me to point who that is?
    Herbert did say that it was unfair that the team didn’t shared Michael’s racing info and stats with him in the first races, and that is a rightly argument why to be angry about it. But still look at the 1995 season, what did Schumacher cheated over him then?

  • MetalQuintessence

    “The Mercedes engine team wrote the new engine rules to give them an unfair advantage.”
    What about all the other teams with Merc power?

    “Quote from Gary Anderson, BBC’s F1 technical analyst”
    “Ferrari had tyres we were not even allowed to look at.” Yet… “And whenever we did have an opportunity to run a derivative of those tyres, our lap times were much, much better. ”
    Not that I don’t believe him that Ferrari might’ve had given advantage by Bridgestone, McLaren opting for Michelin would support this. But how did they got their hands on a set of these super secret tyres, when thy weren’t allowed to look at them? -_-

    And mostly, Schumacher had the special tires, but not his teammate? Yet, Jordan, a team on the bottom of the feed could get his hands on these super tires. Maybe the Jordan pilots got a placebo effect?

    And it’s very funny to think that the same person could be so lucky to always have found a successful trick / advantage in every team he went. Benetton – TC, yeah, eventho he drove perfectly fine and won even before the TC was ever present in the team. Belgium 92, they got TC Monaco 93… he didn’t change his performance much and later when they removed TC, even if you take 1995 as example, he still was well ahead of his competitors. What he cheated on with then? Goodyear tires?

    Later on TC was reintroduced once again, and banned afterwards again… still no change in his performance. But by then he had those pesky Bridgestone tires, but not his teammate. Who happens to be Barrichello. The biggest crybaby in recent F1 history.

    Talking about old teammates, but what about former rivals. Hakkinen has never accused him of cheating and still thinks he’s 1 of the greatest drivers and has always complimented him. Eddie Irvine is a rare case and 1 of the few of his former teammates that hasn’t accused him of cheating or being given unfair advantage. Brundle is another example of that.

  • MetalQuintessence

    Well will copy/paste the text, however I wasn’t being rude, I was furious, but I didn’t sent any insults or even directed my comment at any admins. I just made a complaint, which is justified as far as I think. They have a life, but this site however is their job as well. If you’re not gonna bother with it to do it properly, then maybe don’t do it. Their income doesn’t come from me posting, but it does when you come and visit it. So your point isn’t quite valid.

  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    Well that saved me a lot of wasted time, so I’m pleased. You can always paste in the text, if it is earth shattering new information that the world really needs to hear. Or just let it go. And FYI don’t be rude to the admin. They have a life and do a good job with this site. Approving your posts is not their #1 priority. Better you learn to not post links in comments than blame the admin of a site that doesn’t get any income from you posting comments here.

  • MetalQuintessence

    Strange why my comment is still pending approval, bcs it has links in it I guess? It’s been 4 days now. -_-

  • MetalQuintessence

    GUYS MY COMMENTS ARE AWAITING PENDING FOR 4 DAYS, WTF?

  • Lovejoint

    What are you smoking? I’m jealous;)

  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    I won’t tell you my brother’s name as many people here would contact him and abuse him due to their hatred of me. I don’t care if you think that means he is not real, he is. He was in a very senior role at Benetton, reporting to the technical director.

    As for the team mate, I checked and it was Verstappen who made that claim. And since he hit his wife that makes him a liar and everything he said was wrong. Not. And Senna said it. He didn’t have a wife so he must also be a liar.

    As for the code, if it wasn’t illegal, why pay a huge fine and not give the code to the FIA? Why delay handing it over? If there was nothing to hide, why the delay. Add that fact to the other pieces of the puzzle and you get a whole picture. Like Red Bull for 2.5 years were accused of having an illegal ride height adjuster and then they were found with it. All those suspicions turned out to be true. Add to that all the other cheating that Benetton did that year and were caught for.

    Here is what some other people said on the issue:

    I think that the comments made by Schumacher’s team-mates at the time were also a bit damning. Schumacher had three team-mates—JJ Lehto, Jos Verstappen and Johnny Herbert—during the course of the season. All found the B194 difficult to drive; Verstappen said in 1996 that “I must have a little the same driving style as Johnny because he said basically the same things about that car that I did and seems to have had the same feelings. It was a very difficult car. You could not feel the limit and so you were pushing and pushing and then suddenly it would have oversteer. Normally when you get oversteer you can control it but the Benetton would go very suddenly and so you ended up having a spin. I had big problems with that car.” Driving styles do not differ by such great amounts between drivers. A car that’s dominating in the hands of one driver cannot be so difficult in the hands of these three talented drivers. It’s clear to me that Schumacher’s car had traction control based on all the information we have access to.

    I’ve been thinking more about this recently. In the aftermath of the memorable 1994 Season, allegations came about the software inside Schumacher’s car. Now, I am not one of conspiracy theories, but I just thought I’d bring this discussion up again. Do you think they cheated? In my opinion, the allegation of “The option is there in the software for launch and traction control are there but there is no evidence they used it” is complete bullshit. Also, there was the proved cheating by removing the fuel filter valve during pits which caused them to increase flow by 12.5% . This almost cost some mechanic’s their lives during a fire. And just to add some spice, Briatore is not exactly a saint when it comes to regulations.

    You know, Flavio Briatore, not known for avoiding a bit of cheating…

    Here is a bit more:

    After Senna’s retirement on the first lap of the second race of the season at the Pacific Grand Prix in Japan, Senna stood and watched the race from beside the track attempting to hear any suspicious noises that suggested traction control was being used illegally, Senna returned to the Williams pit suspicious that the Benetton car was indeed illegal.

    Benetton, along with Ferrari and McLaren were later investigated by the FIA on suspicion of breaking the FIA-imposed ban on electronic aids. Ferrari supplied the required information immediately and no further action was taken, while Benetton and McLaren initially refused to help with the investigation and were fined $100,000 for their initial refusal to cooperate. When the FIA investigation concluded, both teams were found to have hidden functionality in their software, the McLaren software aided the gearbox program [that allowed automatic shifts] and was deemed legal, however the Benetton software included the ability to improve traction, which was illegal as drivers gained a benefit from such things as fast starts, but with no evidence that it had been used in a race, Benetton avoided further penalties and fines.

    But this is just a side issue. The rest of my comments about F1 and unfair advantages stands. So all this is just a boring chat with a person who can’t admit when they are wrong.

  • MetalQuintessence

    Your brother? Name please?
    Or at least what was his specific role in the team? That isn’t confidential and you can at least share that. 😛

    Riccardo Patrese? You kidding? He was in the team in 1993, when TC and all that were legal. So your claim that his “teammate” confirmed is invalid on all level, since in 1994 he wasn’t even racing in F1. How could’ve he confirm it?
    Were did you ever read/heard him saying anything about that, link please?

    “The computer code was not delivered until they had time to replace it. So what the FIA got was not the real code. Both McLaren and Benetton hid the real code.”
    Riitght, but of course they did. Any proof of that anywhere?
    Just as Benetton had rigged fueling and pumped more fuel, yet they never were “caught” with any cheat there neither. Brawn explained how they “cheated” with fuel, but yet no use.

    “I’m tired of arguing with your lack of knowledge.”
    Lack of biased bs, your “knowledge” isn’t based on facts or anything relying on proofs. You just know.

  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    My brother and he was in a top role in the team. And Schumacher’s team mate who confirmed it was Riccardo Patrese. The computer code was not delivered until they had time to replace it. So what the FIA got was not the real code. Both McLaren and Benetton hid the real code. I’m tired of arguing with your lack of knowledge.

  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    A great designer who didn’t find an unfair advantage is a crap designer. James Allison has never been a great designer. He was lucky when Lotus had the Pirelli deal. That is it. No other proof that he is a great designer. Nothing.

    The Mercedes engine team wrote the new engine rules to give them an unfair advantage. They are a great TEAM of engineers but there is no ONE person that makes them great.

    As for the tires, do you know more than Gary Anderson? Google this yourself if you don’t believe me:

    Quote from Gary Anderson, BBC’s F1 technical analyst

    It was also interesting to hear Mercedes’ Michael Schumacher complain about the Pirelli tyres. He is a professional racing driver, and it’s all about looking after your tyres. You do that by getting the right balance on the car. When I was involved with Bridgestone tyres with Jordan in the early 2000s, in the middle of the tyre war with Michelin, Schumacher and Ferrari had tyres we were not even allowed to look at. They cost so much money that Bridgestone could not afford to supply them to everyone. And whenever we did have an opportunity to run a derivative of those tyres, our lap times were much, much better. It’s a bit sad that Michael now sees things the other way around, because a lot of his competitiveness in those days was down to the working relationship he and Ferrari had with Bridgestone, one to which nobody else had access.

  • MetalQuintessence

    “And as you said, no person just designed a better car.”
    “No designer is a genius. It is all about getting an advantage. ”

    So where are you getting with that and what are you complaining about exactly?
    No designer is a genius? Yet s/o designed this Merc engine that gave them advantage.
    You say other teams found a certain advantage, yet ppl in those teams are the ones that find them.

    I never said that Allison was the ubergenius of all, all I said was that he’s one of the better engineers in F1. Subsequently if he can’t be generally blamed for the success of a certain team (eventho you can clearly see change in Lotus’ performance before and after he left, tho he wasn’t the only one that left), he can’t also be generally blamed for the team’s lack of success then.

    “the Bridgestone tires just for Schumacher (not for the other driver or for the other Bridgestone teams.) ”
    Are you high or something? They made tires exclusively for him, but not his team mate? When did you started watching F1, last year?

    Back then the tires weren’t designated for a driver. They just gave them a bulk and they sorted them out. It was a common shared pool between the two drivers. You can go and check it out.

    “Did you know that Haas was allowed to use the Ferrari wind tunnel ONLY if their head of aero was a Ferrari guy?”
    Did you know that Merc have certainly done the same thing with Manor. :O
    Surprise, surprise.
    It’s obvious they done it to gain advantage and Merc responded with a team of their own. And how about the TR and RB teams? They’ve been doing it all this time, but you failed to notice for like 10 years?

  • MetalQuintessence

    “Even Schumacher’s team mate confirmed it. ”
    You mean Jos “the bully”?
    Who is yet again involved in the beating of a family member ad who’s racing career is so mediocre that Max probably took most of his talent from his mother’s side. His claim was that Schumacher was cheating bcs he never beat him in kart races. For the record, Senna never won a kart championship. Just an interesting fact.

    “Firstly I know someone who worked at Benetton when Schumacher was there.”
    Really? And who that might be and how you happen to know him?

    “Benetton refused to hand over their computer code to the FIA to hide it.”
    So did McLaren. All they found was a piece of code that was usually not accessible, and that was LAUNCH CONTROL, not TRACTION.
    With computer programming you often can see ppl leaving and obstructing a peace of code as it’s much more feasible to do so than to rewriting and recompiling everything again. If they inspected the Williams I can only guess what they might’ve found there as a leftover.

    Not saying that Senna might’ve not been right, eventho I am a Schumacher fan, we can all go and check those races where he said that he stood by the track and HEARD the Benetton making the TC sound. I am no Senna, but with RB in 2013 in Canada and Singapore you could easily notice the track marks and the sound of the Renault. I guess it would be easy to confirm it.

  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    Firstly I know someone who worked at Benetton when Schumacher was there. They had illegal traction control. A fact. Even Schumacher’s team mate confirmed it. Benetton refused to hand over their computer code to the FIA to hide it. Senna knew they had it. Sure Michael was a great driver, but there were other reasons that contributed to his winning. Not the Rory Byrne, Ross Brawn, Michael Schumacher dream team.

    And as you said, no person just designed a better car. They found a special advantage, like the double diffuser, the Merc engine advantage (not given to other teams), the Red Bull illegal ride height adjuster, the Bridgestone tires just for Schumacher (not for the other driver or for the other Bridgestone teams.) A NOT LEVEL playing field. Merc would not give Red Bull an engine as that would level the playing field. No designer is a genius. It is all about getting an advantage. Like Lotus and the Pirelli tire testing car. Not James Allison. If he can’t get that advantage, suddenly he is not so great a designer.

    Did you know that when Brawn made the double diffuser other teams asked about doing it and were told it was illegal. Then Brawn were told it was OK. How is that a level playing field? Did you know that Haas was allowed to use the Ferrari wind tunnel ONLY if their head of aero was a Ferrari guy? Do you think that he doesn’t secretly help Ferrari’s aero development?

    It’s all about these back room deals, not genius designers.

  • MetalQuintessence

    Unless they have a card in their sleeve, Ferrari are in big troubles.

  • MetalQuintessence

    I don’t think that will be an issue. After contracts and papers have been signed…

    Besides he’s been on immediate leave and will be on gardening leave until the season ends probably.

  • MetalQuintessence

    “Ross Brawn at Benetton had illegal traction control. ”

    I can’t believe how for more than 20 years ppl are continuing with this bs.
    How about turn your look when Benetton had no TC, Active Suspension or semi-automatic gear shifts? They only ever get those after Monaco 1993. Was it illegal TC for McLaren and Williams the previous years when hey exclusively had those in their cars, yet Schumacher’s first win in F1 with Benetton was on a wet track without any of these aids.

    “At Ferrari he had an advantage of Bridgestone tires. ”

    Really?

    “At Mercedes Ross didn’t get anything happening until Mercedes developed a huge engine advantage. ”

    The same engine was in teams like McLaren and Williams… results? It wasn’t the engine alone, eventho it was flawless. If you’ve bothered to read some technical analysis about the 2014 and 2015 cars you’ll see that the engine alone wasn’t what made their domination. They had a perfect chassis as well. For which Brawn and Schumacher have direct significant role. RB only this year really had the best chassis on the grid, 2014 not there at all, 2015, still not there. Tech data proves it even if you’re not an engineer. RB sucked even in slow corners and lost to Merc.

    “Then at Brawn he had the double diffuser. ”

    Like he was the only team with it?

    “Allison and Brawn have not flourished without a specific advantage.”

    Err, name me 1 designer/engineer/technical chief that flourished without an advantage?
    Newey? Double blown Diffs?

    Or maybe the fan car from the 80’s? The Tyrell with the 6 wheels? Williams with the overtake button in the early 90’s, which is drs unrestricted for the most part.

    Name just 1 guy that flourished without finding/having a specific advantage.

  • Roger Flerity

    Considering the past nasty snafu with Ferrari and McLaren regarding information sharing… I wonder if they would even consider hiring Allison without some time passing.

  • I wouldn’t be surprised if Allison has an offer on his desk from McLaren, Renault and Williams.
    McLaren could be a good fit for him, his old boss Eric is there along with alot of other former Lotus engineers that they poached before the buyout.
    Regardless of rumors he’s probably on Gardening leave for the rest of the year, which will mean he will have minimal input into a 2017 car design. Allison will probably have more influence on the 2017 Ferrari (via work already done on it) that any other team that he joins.

  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    Thank god someone gets it. Mercedes built in an advantage for themselves into the rules. Also they had the best V10 engine. And the best V8 engine. But in those years the engine rules made the differences in power less important. So what did Mercedes do? Push for rules that advantaged them over the other teams. And look what you got.

    As a side note, Williams did really well in F1 in 2014. When Mercedes introduced a log style exhaust at the last minute (but known about by Merc in advance). This exhaust made the engine narrower. Williams knew about this change in advance and had designed their car accordingly. The other Merc runners didn’t know about this, and designed a wider car. How did Williams find out? Toto Wolff owned shares in Williams, and he runs Merc F1. Plus he got his wife a job as a development driver at Williams. Of course the Merc F1 car was also designed for the log exhaust, giving both Williams and Mercedes an advantage. This single factor helped Williams dominate the other Merc engine teams.

    This sort of back room dodgy work that causes race winning cars is common in F1. Then someone like Claire Williams comes forward and says “We redesigned the team to take a step forward.” Haaaa. Then that step forward becomes a slide down the grid when that advantage is no longer there. Like Schumacher having tires 2 seconds a lap faster than the other teams (and sometimes his own team mate didn’t have them). Then when Schumacher didn’t have this advantage (or his 20,000 km a year at Fiorano) he was beaten by Rosberg 3 years in a row.

    So many times Red Bull cheated, and favored Vettel, and yet Vettel acts like HE caused those 4 WDC’s all on his own. He didn’t. Then when he wasn’t favored by the team, Dan beat him over a year of racing. Now at Ferrari, without the Red Bull cheating, Vettel is nowhere near the front. Still a good driver, but not worthy of 4 WDC’s. Red Bull’s illegal hand operated ride height adjuster was good for 3 of those WDC’s, and their traction control for the other one.

  • zke007

    I agree why do you think the FIA/FOM keep changing the rules, the engine package, the tires.
    Only the few team as the golden team will win. They have the money.
    I say freeze the rules for 15 years and then see what happens
    Mercedes are were they are at because Bernie let them write the rules and had two year head start.
    Plus Mercedes injected technology that they had already done into the rules

  • Leonardo Pisano Bigollo

    James Allison had an advantage at Lotus that they tested the Pirelli tires on an older Lotus car. Even then the car was only winning a few times, when a Sauber also placed 2nd in races. Yet James was seen as a hero. Ross Brawn at Benetton had illegal traction control. At Ferrari he had an advantage of Bridgestone tires. Then at Brawn he had the double diffuser. At Mercedes Ross didn’t get anything happening until Mercedes developed a huge engine advantage. Allison and Brawn have not flourished without a specific advantage. Ferrari don’t have that advantage and therefore neither of them can help Ferrari. Adrian Newey has had the advantage of the rules cheating that Red Bull always does. None of these people are geniuses without a specific advantage. The rules allow for an advantage, and these people put their names on it to advance their career. James Key has done that. He was not wanted at Sauber when he left, as his ideas were not that good. And now has a huge aero department at Toro Rosso, more than other mid level teams. (This helps Red Bull as Toro Rosso can test ideas that Red Bull think of – but not worth discussing that now). And yet Toro Rosso is not doing that great compared to the size of their aero team. Yet James is milking any success they have to present himself as the hero. But he can’t fix Ferrari because what they really need is an advantage. Not a new technical director that takes all the credit for a specific advantage that they didn’t create.

  • Ghirahim

    No one can save them. They are a bad joke.

  • Pervez Rumi

    Ross Brawn may be the only saving grace for Ferrari

  • McSerb

    I would rather see Ross Brawn in McLaren. In my opinion you can pick up the pieces that fall off a Ferrari but it is not wise to use them.

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